Frau Scharrenbach, wo steht die CDU vor dem nächsten Bundesparteitag nach einem katastrophalen Jahr?
Interview vor CDU-Parteitag NRW-Bauministerin Ina Scharrenbach: „Mehrwertsteuer auf sieben Prozent!“
Wuppertal · NRW-Bauministerin Ina Scharrenbach will einen neuen Satz auf Strom und Gas – und ins CDU-Präsidium. Ein Interview.
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