Vor dem Derby beim 1. FC Köln am Sonntag (15.30 Uhr) spricht Leverkusens Geschäftsführer Sport, Simon Rolfes, über den Erfolg von Bayer 04, das Geheimnis darum und seinen Trainer Xabi Alonso.
Interview „Xabi weiß, was er am Verein hat“
Interview | LEVERKUSEN · Bayer Leverkusens Geschäftsführer Simon Rolfes erklärt, was Trainer Xabi Alonso auszeichnet – und warum die vielen Gerüchte über einen Abgang ihn nicht aufregen.
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